INTERVIEW VIDEOS OF PHILIP SAUVAGE

I.   CATHARSIS: Awakening Humanity's Full Potential, 30 mins
3 YouTube Segments, Full-Length on Viddler

II.  Dr. Jane Dillon Introduction to Philip Savage, 50 mins
5 YouTube Segments, Full-Length on Viddler

III. Philip Savage Exclusive Interview  2005, 70 mins
7 YouTube Segments, Full-Length on Viddler
TV VIDEOS OF CLIENTS OF PHILIP SAUVAGE

Christian Forlani: Drug and alcohol addiction for over 20 years.removed in 1 weekend

Tad Dodge: Dramatic recovery of medically documented broken neck -- back to work in a week!

Alison McDermott: Graduate Student of SDI explains FREE Worldwide Fire Burn Tests

ABSOLUTELY AMAZING "PADDY" VIDEOS!
19 Year-old Horse Crippled with Arthritis,
RUNNING, 5 minutes after Distant SDI Treatment!!!

I.   Paddy Before and After: unedited videos -- -- absolutely unprecedented!
Before and IMMEDIATELY after Philip Savage Intercession!



II.  Paddy Edited Videos – Over a period of 6 weeks after Philip's SDI treatment

Paddy After --  EARLY,  MIDDLE, and LATER

III. Eyewitness Accounts of Paddy's Miracle

Veterinarian (retired): Graeme Doody>
Biologist (retired): Stella Conner>
Farrier: Arthur Bell>
Farrier: James Luker>
Jockey: Pippa Moorhouse>
Ridding Instructor: Sue Fawdry>
Ridding Instructor: Virginia Landry>
Horse Owner: Lavinia Landry>
Horse Owner: Rachel Aberdeen>
Sauvage Client: Christopher Layton>
Sauvage Client: Christian Forlani>
Sauvage Student: Jane Clements>
Sauvage Graduate: Alison McDermott>
Rosie Holt: Friend of Paddy
VIDEOS ON THE UNPRECEDENTED RESULTS OF PHILIP SAUVAGE

I.   HISTORIC FRENCH TELEVISION APPEARANCES – 1989-1990
(written translation below)
Part I - "The Unbelievable Healer", Patrick Sabatier Show (42.1Mb)
Part II - French TV documentary, FR3 (8.4Mb)
Part III - Winning the TV Debate with medical Professor (33.8Mb)

II.   ORGASMIC RESULTS: TESTING AT THE CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF HUMAN SCIENCE (CIHS) – 1996
Shielded Room Experiment and AMI documentation of effects (67.6Mb): Bio-Bliss on Tap
(See written report HERE)

III.  "CORPUS CALLOSUM" CASE: SDI PROCESSING and INTERVIEW WITH DOCTOR – 1998
Part I - Doctor interviews Philip Savage (36.5Mb)
Part II - Sacred Processing "Corpus Callosum" case (45.3Mb)
(See written report HERE)

IV.  AMAZING SHINGLES EXPERIMENT: SDI TREATMENT OF HERPES ZOSTER VIRUS – 2000
Part I - Subliminal Distant Influence (SDI) Treatment of Herpes Zoster (Shingles) (58.2Mb)
Part II - Monitoring the Effects of SDI Treatment of Shingles Virus (Herpes Zoster)

V.   Dr. Jane Dillon on Removing Terrorists with Philip Sauvage's SDI Technology
1.  Historic 1990 French TV show, featuring Philip Sauvage
The appearance of Mr. Sauvage broke all known television ratings worldwide, after which the station
received millions of letters and calls from viewers trying to contact this most famous Breton holy “healer,"
Philip Gwezh (Sauvage, in Breton language)


TRANSLATION OF 12-MINUTE TF1 FRENCH TV SHOW:  If We Said Everything.
Host: Patrick Sabatier, 12/28/90    " GWEZH, THE UNBELIEVABLE HEALER"

Host:               Oh, how is it, Jerome?  Everybody is doing fine?  Yes?

Public:            This man has something to say… and we are here to prove it.

Host:               You’re saying that this person has something to say, and that you are here to prove it?  Come then, come all of
you.

[Insert Title]        GWEZH, THE UNBELIEVABLE HEALER

Host:                Ok, make yourselves comfortable. Please come, Madam, with your child. Here, you can sit down there…. So,
this man is a healer, an unbelievable healer. And you might say, rubbish, that’s a lot of bull. So, what’s your name, Madam?

Witness 1:        Denise Le Poupon.

Host:                What did he heal you from?

Witness 1:       From depression

Host:                You were having a depression, and he cured you?

Witness 1:        I had  been suffering from depression for ten years, with a medical treatment, and I was getting worse and
worse, and I saw…

Host:                You are stating this, you are not in collusion with this gentleman.

Witness 1:        Oh, no, absolutely not!

Host:                Your name, Madam?

Witness 2:        Gouzien, Marguerite.

Host:                May I ask you, don’t take it the wrong way, may I ask you your age?

Witness 2:        Sixty-eight and a half.

Host:                You were sick. What did you have?

Witness 2:        Yes, a mammary cancer.

Host:                That is to say a cancerous tumor in the breast.

Witness 2:        In the breast, yes.

Host:                And you had seen some physicians?

Witness 2:        Yes, that is why I knew what I had.

Host:                So you had undergone regular medical treatments, radiation…

Witness 2:        No, no, I refused.

Host:                You went to see that gentleman?

Witness 2:        Yes, I got his address from a colleague at work.

Host:                And, no cancer anymore?

Witness 2:        No more!

Host:                What did he do to you?

Witness 2:        He did a laying on of hands.

Host:                He just touched you?

Witness 2:        Yes.

Host:                How many times?

Witness 2:        Oh, four times in five months.

Host:                Four sessions of handling in five months?

Witness 2:        Yes.

Host:                And no more cancer?

Witness 2:        That’s right.

Host:                And the last sitting took place when?

Witness 2:        That must have been in September.

Host:                That is to say about three months ago.

Witness 2:        Yes.

Host:                Sir, will you take the microphone from this lady?… What is your name?

Witness 3:        Robert Barbotin

Host:                Yes.  Do you know one another?

Witness 3:        No, not at all.  This is the first time that…

Host:                Haven’t you all agreed to conspire together?

Witness 3:        No…, no, no!

Host:                You have, yes or no?

Witness 3:        No, I am an engineer.

Host:                What did you have?

Witness 3:        Well, I had the after effects of a road accident lingering on for the past fifteen years, and when my wife and my
two daughters and an artist that I know and that I consider as a friend, when all those people were taken care of, I…

Host:                But what did you have yourself?

Witness 3:        Well, among the different problems, the most obvious was an obesity quite severe in…

Host:                You weighed how much?  Excuse me I have to go a little fast.

Witness 3:        Just about 95 kilogrammes  and some, to be modest.

Host:                This is not being obese, 95 kilos. Were you in good health?

Witness 3:        It wasn’t you who had to carry that weight!

Host:                No, that’s true…. So he touched your stomach and it was all right?  A diet?

Witness 3:        No, no, not at all.  Mr. Gwezh thinks that it’s probably better warding off the real cause, and not the symptoms…

Host:                Sorry for being a little in a hurry, but what did he do, so that you would no longer have this obesity, what you call
obesity, what did he do?

Witness 3:        He laid his hands on my head.

Host:                There we are. He laid his hands on your head….  Madam, what is your name?

Witness 4:        My name is Valerie Aguerre.

Host:                Valerie, the microphone.  Thank you for Valerie.

Witness 4:        My name is Valerie Aguerre.  So I was six months pregnant with Antoine.

Host:                With your child Antoine.

Witness 4:        Physicians had diagnosed a cystic fibrosis.

Host:                A Cystic fibrosis for the foetus, at the fetal level.

Witness 4:        Yes, an intra-uterine cystic fibrosis, and I went to see Philippe Gwezh, and the child was born and you can see
that he is well!

Host:                Your child was born in good health?

Witness 4:        She was born in good health, she…

Host:                So, what did he do?

Witness 4:        He laid his hands on my stomach.  Once.

Host:                Very well… Madam, what is your name?

Witness 5:        Veronique Le Fur.

Host:                Were you sick?

Witness 5:        Not me, no, but someone very close to me, very, very close, had an advanced stage of cancer.

Host:                And he went to see Philippe.

Witness 5:        No, no!

Host:                Wait a minute…

Witness 5:        I brought him a photograph.  I brought a photo of him to Philippe Gwezh.

Host:               Wait a minute, are you saying that the person who was close to you, who had a cancer, was healed by sending
a photograph to Philippe Gwezh?

Witness 5:        Yes.

Host:                He looked at the picture?

Witness 5:        He worked on the picture.

Host:                And you’re telling me, you assure us here, there a millions of people looking at this show, you assure us that
the person close to you does not have his cancer anymore?

Witness 5:        For the time being, everything is all right.  And I am going to request Philippe Gwezh to continue taking care of
him.

Host:                An incredible guy, to say the least….  Well, some may be skeptical or not….

P. Gwezh:        That’s advisable, it seems to me.

Host:                Now I would like to know, when did you realize that you were having what can be called, because it is rather
irrational, a gift?

P. Gwezh:        Oh, probably several thousand years ago, that is to say, I cannot answer you about when I realized this
because I was simply trained to be so; because I am a healer just as my mother is a healer, my grand-mother is a healer
and she is 87 years old, and her mother was one as well, her grand-father, as well as…. I am merely a link in an old chain.  
But I was taught how to heal, in its own good time, from the time I was a very young boy, until I became an adult….  And my
five children are trained by myself, my mother and my grand-mother every day, especially my mother and my grand-mother, I
do not have much time myself; I have been trained myself by my mother, my grand-mother and my great-grand-mother, every
day; when I was around seven or eight, I started curing my maid of some shingles, or a skin disease like anyone can have,
and when I was around twenty-five, I set up my practice as a true healer.

Host:                Does that mean, Philippe, that you can transmit your knowledge to another person, who would not necessarily
belong to your family?

P. Gwezh:        I believe so. I maintain that it is not really a gift.  I think that we all have this sense at our disposal, but it has
been fossilized or frozen in some people, whereas in me, it has been awakened.  In the same way, if one does not learn how
to see, feel and listen, this has been tried several times on a young animal with some appliances, when you remove the
appliances, the brain has not learned to see, to listen and to hear, etc…. so you are deaf and blind.  I was taught to heal, in its
own good time, and another child, rather than mine, would have been in my family, I think I would have made a good healer
out of him, in any case, we never tried to take in a stranger, therefore the question is still open, but I try, in the debate between
what is innate and what is acquired, rather than to be considered as an E.T. and as an absolutely extraordinary kind of
person, to be thought of as a human being completely normal in the first place, and who underwent a teaching coming from
ages immemorial, and who is capable of inducing among his consultants, I prefer not to speak about patients, as in fact I am
not a therapist, I am always backing up a physician and with [inaudible] a physician, I recognize I am not competent.

Host:                Philippe, let us look at a documentary.  [A documentary is shown… see II below].  Look. Is this where you live?

P. Gwezh:        Nearby, yes.

Host:                Nearby.  What are you doing there?

P. Gwezh:        Apparently, I am laying on my hands, on a place where a person was suffering, an old person suffering from
non-inflammatory arthritis.  That was the first time I saw myself, actually, in the process of healing.

Voice in film:          What is happening, actually, at that time?

P. Gwezh:                I do not know.  To be quite honest with you. I do not know.  The important thing is that I should heal.

Woman in Documentary:  [inaudible]… it is as you say.  He is healing because he has the gift.
[End of documentary segment]

Host:                So you have always had this gift….  And you founded the “Ordre des Guerisseurs” [National Healers
Association]?

P. Gwezh:        The Board of the National Healers Association, which is a provocation, of course, but not a provocation with
regard to my physician friends and co-workers. I say it again to you, this is an office that I respect and with which I work daily,
insofar as what they can do, I cannot do by definition, and vice versa.  There is a sharing of our skills. Well, I always work with
the physician, but in a completely different area.  I was taught how to heal, that is, I am going to explain to you very sincerely
what it is.  I think that we all are like self-cleaning ovens, we are all self-healing, but this has been forgotten.  So, my role is to
reawaken those self-regenerating processes, which may go very far.  This is of course the same phenomenon as the well-
known placebo effect that everybody knows in medicine, that is to say the taking of a make-believe medication, like lactose,
for instance, or honey….

Host:                Wait a little, I believe you, but this could last for hours, so we are going to interrupt here.  So when this woman,
who is sixty-eight, is suffering from a breast cancer, any doctor who belongs to the Order is reliable. I do not say that you are
not, since there are proofs, and they cannot be denied, so you can say, it is necessary to intervene, it is necessary to do this.  
You, you place four times, in your special way, your hands on this woman, and within five months, this woman no longer has
her breast cancer.

P. Gwezh:        Yes, but even then, this is not something so remarkable.  Why Mrs. Aguerre is more interesting as a case,
actually, is that a child has been healed beyond its consent, without any psycho-suggestion. What I want is to do away with
the well-known saying, “You have to believe it to make it work.”  So really this kid, just like the person with a very advanced
cancer on behest of Mrs. Le Fur, neither this kid nor this person knew that I was taking care of them.  And yet, they were
healed.  This kid not only did not get the disease of cystic fibrosis, but is not even a bearer of the 508 mutation.  That is to say,
that when tests are being done, whereas in Necker [Hospital] tests had been repeatedly taken on the woman, the father, the
child by amniocentesis, when it was born, those tests show that there is no cystic fibrosis, that is to say that I have corrected
the genetic inheritance, which seems to me to a first-time happening.

Host:                So, we will interrupt here….  We are going to receive hundreds, thousands of letters.  What do we do with them

P. Gwezh:        You can always send them on to me.  The problem is that I am not dependent on this process.  Unfortunately, I
always have more demand than supply.  I try to take people in reasonable good health, and not to confuse my activity with the
after-sales service of Mr. Scharzenber [?] or of Lourdes.  That is not to say that one cannot do the impossible, that is.  I try to
take animals, racehorses,… a healthy man who comes to see me to get a little better off. This is much simpler than if people
come to see me [inaudible] as a last resort.

Host:                We will send you on the letters that we shall receive.  Is that all right?

P. Gwezh:        Of course.

Host:                Because I suppose that tonight, for many people, at the close of this year 1990, for many people who are
looking at us, you are also a hope.

P. Gwezh:        This is a kind of Christmas present…

Host:                But you must not be a quack.

P. Gwezh:        This is the reason I founded the National Healers Board; it is to fight against quackery.

Host:                So, he is not a quack?  You can say so, right?  Don’t forget that we have a responsibility; we are on television,
and people are watching.  Can you say so?

Public:             Yes, of course we can!

Host:                You are committed and I hope with all my heart that what you are doing will be able to bring relief!

P. Gwezh:        I think this is wonderful.

Host:                And so do I.  Now we can applaud, right?….     [Host turns to the audience and the tape ends].


Certified translation by a Federal court-appointed translator: “I, Edith JONSSON-DEVILLERS, a duly appointed translator for
the Superior Court of California, county of San Diego, CERTIFY that I have translated the attached document from a FRENCH
video into ENGLISH and DO CERTIFY that it is correct to the best of my ability and judgment. 14 June 2000, Dr. Edith
Johnsson-Devillers, Ph.D., San Diego, CA  92117
2.  Transcript of EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH PHILIP SAUVAGE  
                               By Documentary Filmmaker Michael Mendizza, May 2005

M:            Thank you, again, for indulging me with this…

PS:           That’s my privilege.

M:             I know that it’s not fun, but….

PS:           Oh, it is, it is always.

M:             Ok, great…. Just again, the whole picture of twelve centuries, … the thousand centuries, … the unbroken…

PS:         … chain.

M:              chain…the heart of the clan, the heart of the tradition… in three sentences…

PS:              Ok, are we ready? Oh yes. Well, the most important is to understand, we’re talking about the shell here, the vehicle I have
borrowed… very useful and very handy, but I’m not only the heir, or the ultimate offspring, of an ancient prophecy from Hyperborea. I’m
something else. I’ve just borrowed that. So let’s talk about what’s been borrowed, about the vehicle. Twelve thousand years ago,
Hyperborea, also known as Greenland, Kalaallit Nunaat, the country of the Kalaallit in Eskimo, which is not the same as the Eskimo, was…

M:              Philip… sorry. [Huge background noise... had to stop interview for several minutes]

PS:             Start again? The same thing?  Ok. Ok, about my origins? So I have to start all over again, which means we are talking about the
origins of the vehicle I have borrowed, this flesh, this shell. That goes way back to a disaster that stays in our unconscious memory.
Everybody remembers of Atlantis; very few remembers of Hyperborea. They can look it up in a dictionary, then. It’s the North Pole, also known
as Greenland. For the people living in Greenland, they call it Kalaallit Nunaat, the country of the Kalaallit, Celt, the pure. When the North Ridge
sank, hence Atlantis, all the Gulf Stream that was going to Greenland to keep it green went into Europe. That was the end of the European ice
age. That was the beginning of our ice age, and then we had to split. Some of us from northern Hyperborea went in Siberia and became all
the women priestesses, warriors that stays in our memory as the Amazons, the Sarmations, the Scythians. Some of us from the west part of
Hyperborea went west and they created all the ancient civilizations, pre-Columbian in America (like Tiahuanaco, for instance), and actually
our language is very close to Nahuatl Quetzalcoatl -- atl in my language means the breath, the breath of the Divine. And the one who are on
the east -- actually the Tunit, (which in my language, Celtic language, Tunit means the Venetic people, the people from Gwenned) -- went
east and they followed the ice for about two thousand years. The first land free of ice they could find was southern Brittany, Carnac. And that’s
where my family has been settling for about eight thousand years. Carnac exists also in Egypt. Al Karnak is the death valley of the pharaoh
and naturally it exists also in Greenland – American air base of Thule for the Eskimo is Carnac, which means the naval, the centre of the
Earth, the most sacred place of the Earth. So we just replicated that system. And my family has been the keepers of this law, of this
megalithic civilization, that's eight thousand years old -- nine thousand years old, eight thousand seven hundred -- for the dolmen of
Kermario at Carnac, which mean three thousand years older than Stonehenge, for instance. And then the lore, the powers, of this ancient
Hyperborean civilization passed from mother to daughter and so forth, uninterruptedly, for thousands of years. And here I am, the only so-
called male -- actually more both male and female, androgynous -- as the fulfillment of this prophecy, that at the end, when a big shift, the
major shift, would have to come, there’ll be someone to help, some form of midwife in a new re-birth. Here is the roots of my origin. It’s very
ancient. It dates way back before the Druids -- nothing to do with the so-called Druids of history. First, Druids never call themselves Druids.
That was the way by which people address them. Dru-wit means very wise, like Rimpoche in Tibetan, very close. Or as wise as a tree. Dru is
the tree, the tree, the oak tree, the same root in English, tree and dru. We call ourselves at the time, Keldee, which means the servants of
God….
[Interruption]  

M:            Let’s go back to… the Druids.

PS:          So the Druids, first, never call themselves Druids; that was the way by which the people were calling them as a sign of respect –
that means honorable wise person, as wise as an oak tree. Tree, dru-wit, wisdom, the same root in English, and in this ancient language.
The actual Druids never call themselves Druids, naturally; they call themselves Keldanes… Kele-dane, the servants of the Divine, the
servants of God. Also, Kele, the same root as heal -- K and H are common -- are the healers of God; not the one who heals from God, the
one who heals God, protects God. Kele is a system of Love and of shielding, in the same time as well as of healing. Here is for my roots.
Ok….

M:          Tell me a little bit about -- you mention in your writings and that’s what I’m drawing from – the shamanic training and I’m going to say
meditative training… some hint of the training that you went through as a young man….

PS:          Well, this is not shamanistic in origin, or… there is a major difference. Whereas the shamans in their totemic aspect always
embody some form of an animal, the ancient Keldeans, the so-called Druids, were having a transference upon trees… trees. That was the
actual totem. That’s why I’m forbidden to eat vegetables, for instance. I’m not supposed to eat anything that helps us breathe, like a leaf.
Trees, and fruits, yes, fruits are the gift of the tree, but not the plants. I have no problem with people eating plants, even leaves, as long as
they treat them with equal respect as an Eskimo killing a whale or an American Indian killing a buffalo. And then everything is fine. My
initiation was more than initiation, it was achroamatic – it’s a term that exists in English. It means directly from the word of one to the ear of
another, pure oral tradition, and it was mostly ethical. First, to break down any possible trace of ego on me. I’m just a servant. I practice
unconditional healing, unconditional love, unconditional justice. It is also hardening initiation. You have to be extremely hard. And not being
confused also. You have the powers of playing God, but you don’t want to interfere with the Divine Will, which is very hard. So everything is
ethical – ethical, about justice, about being fair, about not being pervaded by glory, money, power. You say in America, power corrupts,
absolute power absolutely corrupts. I got absolute powers 15 years ago in Europe -- 12 million worshipers, I was making a lot amount of
money. I’ve never been corrupted. I was living extremely simply. All the money was sent to Africa, save the dying children -- to the American
Indians -- to Israel where I saved the royal eagle of Israel, the Osnia. When I took care of them there were only two living specimens and
today they are by the thousands above the Negev and the Golan.  All that was part of my initiation, this breaking down of any drift of ego, of
power and always to serve with equal justice and humility. But it has been a training uninterrupted from the age of before I was born to 18
years old, twice 9, and that’s only at 27 that I was a full fledged heir of my family. But remember, that’s the shell speaking, not what decided to
take over the shell for other purposes, which come from another dimension and are very needed right now. Ok. Well I hope I answered some
of your question, which is very difficult….

M        Yes, yes, this is great. Let’s talk a little bit about your unique skills….

PS        We all have unique skills; mine are more salient than others. I’m not above others. I’m not higher than others. I just have skills that
unfortunately have become very, very rare at that time period on this planet….

M:          But, why, you know, again… nothing happens by chance…

PS:        Of course not…
M:          You’re here for a time, this is the time, the moment is now. What you bring, what you offer humanity is very strategic.

PS:        Yes, not only to humanity, to all life. Humanity is a part of it….

M:          Yes, yes. What is it that you’re bringing… what is that unique quality that you are bringing that all life needs now?

PS:        A way out. That’s what we badly all need, a way out. That means the earth has actually started to die. It’s not that the earth will
possibly die. The earth has actually started to die and, for some reason, there is a small window of hope -- reasons too technical and
accordingly secretive for me even to allude to. There is no time anymore for messages. Messages came and came and came. The children
of God came all the time to say basically the same thing: Be good instead of being bad, we are all one here, give instead of taking, ok, love is
universal, there is no separation between all things. There’s no time for messages. What it’s time for, right now, is proofs. What I call
expericism, not empiricism – but from the proof, the example. People need model, at that point, to understand that they also can be
associated to this great shift, not being excluded. So that’s why one of my ideas was always to create a provocation. Because I’m a scientist,
it’s easy for me to have the door open of universities and laboratories and make experiments completely impossible to make: Cells burned
by a laser in the nucleus, we take half of those cells, working in triple blind system – all of the cells I’m taking care of don’t die – all the cells I’
m not taking care of, of course die. We can go even further, that can be done from a distance, simultaneously, on several samples of cells.
And, then, we can go even further in absolutely heterodox experiment up to the point where people would be ready to see me as a new
prophet, a new messiah, and then hold your horses. The idea is you all are messiah and prophet then. And you’re all associated to what I
have to do. And I'm not once again above anybody here on this planet. It’s for me to teach anyone…  we take kids, south central America, in
the Bronx, pushing drugs, the dregs of your own society, the hopeless. Let me spend half an hour with six of them and I will guarantee that
half an hour later they will make exactly the same experiment with the same rate of success I have done myself, which means that I have just
unfrozen your own powers that exist within everyone. I just happen to have been unfrozen in time, awakened in time and nothing else. If you
put an appliance that keeps someone from hearing when he’s a baby, after a few months the brain, not having happened to hear, you’re
deaf. The same, you’re blind, you’re ageusmic, you’re anosmic, you cannot taste, you cannot smell. I have learned a few things, you haven’t.
But this is possible to re-awaken, to unfreeze this power. I just happen to have more than your five senses, hence the difficulty for me to
explain what it is. It’s like trying to explain to someone whose been born blind what’s the painting of Michelangelo or Botticelli. And once
again, the only semantic tool, the only link I can have with you, for you to understand, is the experiment, experiment and experiment again –
the proof. People are tired of anything else right now. And we are running out of time. We need proofs. We need tools. And that’s what I’m
here to bring – tools. To re-empower people. That’s what they need the most. Not freedom. Not a new message. Not a new enlightenment.
Just tools, very down to earth, literally and matter of fact….

M:          You talked about the need for a model…. This is so clear. That’s how every capacity is opened. You can’t open a capacity without a
model….

PS:          No. People are tired of all theories. They need to see with their own eyes, to experience with their own senses that it’s easier to be
happy than they could think, to be whole. And it’s better to be whole, than being sick – it’s better to be happy than being unhappy. It's also
better to be wealthy than being poor. But we, there is so much we can share together. We can grow so much. So many resources within our
own capacity. There is such a waste of talent, and that is actually the worst thing, what have you done with your talents? That’s what drives
me nuts the most. The beauty, the power, the potential within people, were not even used at 5% in our life. And this is what people can see:
People who have been processed by me just glow – they just glow. Not in an exceptional way. They have become normal. We just have lost
the sense of what is being normal – the sense of normalcy. Normalcy is not just the rat race, after who dies the richest, wins. Was there a life
before their death? No. We should be alive all the time, at every minute of our life, and being happy and being useful and abide to our own
duty. That should make us even more happy, being of service. We are the servants. Humans are not only animals. They are animals with
freewill. They are animal with a special gift, the gift of choosing, which gives us a lot of duties. The gift to protect, to serve, and to love. And that’
s where we can be completely fulfilled. There is no other way we can be fulfilled, but in doing our own duty, which is Divine in a sense. This
goes back to the first co-Divine delegation. We are all Divine. The Divine is without and also within…. And that, co-operation… this co-
operative work of co-creation with the Divine – that we can be completely fulfilled. Right now, we are not in the process of co-creating. We are
in the process of trying to atone for what we have done, trying to bail out from an imminent destruction and get ready for THE Shift that’s going
to happen, no matter what. Let’s hope it would happen painlessly and without too much convulsion, rather than happen in a cataclysmic way,
which is actually long overdue. But the more people would be associated to this atonement, the more we can convince the higher forces that
have already planned the cleansing, the catharsis of this planet, “OK, hold your horses, there is maybe a way they start to understand
something….”

When 12 years ago, when I was to Greenland, I wanted to re-introduce the mammoth -- the mammoth in Greenland -- very handy, by the way,
to bring goods from the East to the West through the inland seas, through the ice. It was also a way -- it would have cost just a couple of
million bucks, just about cloning cells that already exist into an elephant. It would have been a way to show, let’s say God, “Hey look! Look at
what those little monkeys have done. They have destroyed the mammoth themselves, you know, and now they are smart enough to re-
introduce it.” Ok, so they start to get the point. They start to understand that not only they need to preserve what can still be preserved, but they
can even be acting in a pro-active way and atone concretely for what they have done, and re-introduce the mammoth. We can re-introduce a
lot of species, the wolf of Tasmania, anything…

But my project, my real project is called Imago -- I M A G O – which, in terms of psychoanalysis, means the state of perfect completion. In
terms of entomology (insect) is the perfect insect after a larval life. Sometimes the Imago state lasts only one day, but what a day! We all are
larvae compared to our own potential. And there is an evolutionary leap that’s long overdue, actually that has been blocked by those forces of
chaos, those forces of destruction for millions of years. Remember, I’m a palaeontologist and I know exactly what I’m talking about. Just
thinking that your immediate ancestors Cro-Magnon had a brain of 2.2 litres (where today it’s 1.4) and with much better convolution, you
know, and a much better wiring, not unlike a whale or a killer whale or a dolphin. And it’s only 40,000 years ago,… just try to imagine
humanity of like a couple of million years ago, which has nothing to do with the ape, nothing, nothing, nothing….

There is a leap that’s long overdue. And that’s my project: To turn everyone from its larval state into an Imago complete being. What it takes,
at that point, is for me (because I have the machinery for change, the schematics), is just to build a few machines, very special pyramids,
with 9 angles, 2/3 on the outside, 1/3 on the inside and then a sphere in a very strange alloy – whose schematics, once again, is here
[pointing to his head]; it doesn’t really exist on this planet -- with a special bio-liquid inside. And then, through thermal imagery, I would be
connected to those people and submit them to my own processing with my strange powers. What I can guarantee is that people entering the
sphere and people going out of the sphere, less than an hour later, will be the same species -- they’ll be real humans, complete. It’s not to
replace human, it’s to make them really human, which they are not yet. They have stopped that path toward a real humanity. We are not even
using our brain at more than 10%. If only we could use it at 100%, wouldn’t be so bad. But we can do much better than that and go back to
TRUE HUMANITY. That’s exactly my idea in which there is no separation between all beings, which means there is no separation between
the mind, the soul, the body, one another, parents with children, children with family, family with the village, the village with the country, the
country with the world, and the world with the universe and with God. All one, oneness, unity. That’s the whole point. That’s what we have all
forgotten.

I know that at one point you want to ask me also about non-local events… [laughing].  That has everything to do with that, precisely. That
means that when I am taking care of someone, you know, from one inch or one thousand miles, it’s just the same. There is no
separativeness. There is no separation between things. If only you could have one sense more than you have, as I do, the way you see the
universe, the way I’m seeing you or this camera is so different. There is no difference between the atoms of the wall and your atoms.
Everything is a flux. Everything is a movement of energy all the time. There is no life and death, then. There is a perpetual continuation and,
naturally, there is no distance. The greatest secret of the universe: There is no time. All experiments in physics…, prove there is no time.
Each time we put time to the test, it doesn’t exist. And yet, tell me of one human that can write a book, one simple chapter, on an a-temporal
story. How can it be possible to even conceive. And since there is no time, there is no space. Space-time, it’s one single continuum. Actually,
there is no reality. That’s why it’s so easy for me to surf, to switch, between this multiple-dimensional multi-reality universe and make things
impossible happen. They were impossible in one little reductionistic reality. But in another one, they were so simple to organise. You can do
it. Anyone can do it. I just happen to be the one right now with the key.

M:          Well, you know, you have the lineage and the heritage,… you know, anyway…

PS:          I have the memory…. You have the same heritage and the same lineage, everybody. You just have been cut-off. You have been
lobotomized from your own senses, from your own knowledge, from your sensitivity, from your heart. You have been cut off from one another.
But that can be re-established. I have the key. I can pass it to you. You can pass it to someone else. And that’s something new also in my
project. For the first time in my life, I’m ready to delegate. Why, because time is running out. Ok, we can’t just sit down and meditate and wait
that the greatest consciousness rises, and… we don’t have that opportunity and that chance today. We need to go fast, to be very effective, to
give proofs to people, give them example and then to associate them, re-empowered,… that’s it.

M:          That, you know, this idea of the capacity to delegate – what you call delegate…

PS:        Yes…

M:          … to be able to pass on, to awaken and have others do similar things. How… let’s just open that up a little bit because that is… it’s
always been… you know, I want to talk, right. I want to share. There’s so many things that come up, as you speak…. First, um, my friend
Krishnamurti. Have you read much of him? Do you know much about him?

PS:          I know everything about him.

M:          Good. Um, he… one of his greatest works was a conversation with the physicist, David Bohm. The name of it, the collected works,
was The Ending of Time….

PS:          Yes, yes…

M:          … which is exactly what you’re talking about. They were very specific about that.

PS:          Yes. Yes. What I’m saying is not mine! Everybody knows it. It’s ancient knowledge. It’s common knowledge. But it’s like the truth, you
know. People claim they’re running for the truth, but when they face the truth most of the time, they go back, way back, “OK, it’s too much for
what… I don’t want to change, ultimately”….

M:          Let’s talk briefly about how you could implement the spreading of this awakening and having other people learn… and so on. Can
you go into that at all?

PS:          Oh, yes, it’s very simple. It’s a simple catalytic effect. I need to have groups of people whom I can teach, and who can teach others,
and so forth. It can go very fast. In a year, eight million people can be healers. And then, ah, I’m going to have a lot of enemies; a lot of people
are going to be looking for job, including governments. That’s the problem. When people are happy, when people are free, they don’t need
doctors, they don’t need priests, they don’t need judges because there is no crime. They don't need governments -- worst nightmare… or
best dream. And it takes just starting the whole process, priming the pump. Having a team of a few dozen people whom I’ve taught directly,
whom are going to teach others, and so forth. One person can teach ten, ten persons can teach one thousand, and it goes exponentially,
and very, very fast. Once again from proofs. That’s why also… we need to have our own laboratories, because when the scientific corpus is
going to understand the danger, the threat to their own paradigm that’s going to be washed away, we better have our own laboratories to
establish our own proofs. Ok. That’s what people need, once again, proofs, proofs, proofs. Expericism, not new messages.

M:         Um, let’s talk about health.  You know, people… to most people, not being…

PS:          Not being sick is healthy!

M:          Yes, not being sick is healthy…. Right, it’s so crazy. So, let’s redefine….

PS:          … It’s like not being unhappy is being happy. No. There is a major difference between not being sick and being healthy. Being
healthy is being happy, being in love with oneself, with God, with the entire universe, with one another; it’s just being on duty, being healthy
and being happy. It’s not solely being whole. It’s a proactive process by which you help others be whole. And assuming that the whole world
would be whole there is always a way to make it wholer, More united, for instance, and happier… always. This is the pursuit of happiness in
terms of evolution, in terms of spirituality… always. That’s how you are healthy. You’re healthy when you are happy, you’re happy when you
are on duty, when you are one with the Divine and with yourself. To me, that’s the definition of health. It’s a proactive -- and what I’ve called, at
one point, “healthening” -- which means a dynamic of health, not just being perfectly sound, powerful, young also. I mean, what are those
free radicals? Who said we are supposed even to die? We die because we are too many and we have lost the key. But that’s not necessary
at all. It’s a way by which nature is getting rid of too many. If we could go back, peacefully, to a smaller amount of people in terms of a new
evolution there’ll be no need for aging, no need for sickness. We’ll be all one with one another and with the Divine and with Life. No aging
process. No separation. And yet we’d be all different. That’s oneness within differences. That’s the beauty of Life. That’s the beauty of the
Divine. There is one God, in an infinite levels of aspects of realities. But basically, every prophet has said the same. That’s just the ones who
followed them that decided that was otherwise. Ok.

MM:          It’s interesting when we think of, when we use the word “God,” the languaging.

PS:         You know it’s taboo -- an absolute taboo that I’m infringing all the time. To a Druid or to a Jew -- there are a lot of things in common
between my people and their people, of course. The concept, the trying to give a name to the Divine or even conceptualize the Divine is a
blasphemy, ok. To me, to make it – not her, not him, not them -- as one being, anthropomorphic besides, is horrible, is pathetic, is what I call
hypotheism. I propose, Hypertheism, in which you have so much respect for the Divine, that ultimately you don’t even pray to the Divine -- why
don’t you pray to yourself? Why do you put the blame on God on everything? Why do you look for solution within God? That’s what I’ve said.
And that was not after one of your presidents, it’s from my own ancestor: “Instead of asking what God can do for you, why don’t you ask
yourself what you can do for God?” Pray to yourself to help the Divine who is right now suffering through life -- through its expression on this
planet, at least -- a lot. So the Divine is everywhere. It doesn’t deserve a name. It deserves respect and love and protecting. Ok. Sorry, I’m
getting moved.

MM:         You’re doing great.

PS:         No, I’m just getting moved.

MM:         This is exactly right, don’t you think? It’s perfect.

PS:        Yes

MM:         Let’s talk now,… again, another topic, chapter.

PS:         Anything

MM:         The people are so frightened. They live their lives in…

PS:         In Fear

MM:         In perpetual fear. The state of, what I’m going to call in my language, coherent meaning and purpose, this divine quality that you are
talking about. Conflict comes in, fear comes in, shatters that coherent energy and the dis-ease of that, breaks the whole, fractures the whole
thing. So let’s talk a bit about the origin of disease.

PS:        Yes.

MM:         You’ve talked about what is health. Let’s talk about what causes disease. And then, if you will, how you are able to come in, again
my language please… you’re dropping into a, your words, dimension, with another image-slash-reality, and replacing, literally, the image,
the reality, that caused the fear and the disease.

PS:         So let’s go back to fear. Very interestingly, in “my” country, in Brittany, what used to be the countries of my ancestors, there were
seven healer gods that of course are called, today, seven healer saints. At the top of the food chain of healing is the same disease and the
same god or saint that healed the supreme disease from which all others arise, which was fear, fear. But fear -- it’s too simple; it’s too easy,
it’s an easy shot -- goes with something else. Everybody, deep, deep inside has a very legitimate fear that goes with guilt. Some kind of a
collective responsibility of what we have done, not even to others, not even to the environment, but to ourselves. I wish so much people could
become selfish, you know, not egotistic, but enjoy this wonderful gift, this wonderful difference that’s within, that’s called a “self.” But they are
not even selfish. Why should they smoke, use drugs, use alcohol, be detrimental to themselves, use toxemic products all the time, being in
perpetual conflict, between mind, body, between what they really aspire to in their heart, in what they do with their life in terms of money-
making, for instance. No, that’s a global fear that relates to a global guilt and that goes way back to an actual fact of complete self-
destruction. Disease comes from separation. We are separated from the Divine,… disease. We are separated from one another,… disease.
We are separated from ourselves -- deep inside we are all shattered --  disease. That’s what it is. It’s more than a disease, actually; it’s a
self-destruction. Everything is Self. In my language, we also say, “We never die, we always kill ourselves.” It’s like a choice. But for most
people, it’s not even a choice. They just are compelled to destroy themselves, destroy one another, destroy their own family, destroy their
country and the world. And this was not the way! Man isn’t evil! That’s where I would clash with the Catholic church. There is no original sin.
There was no original blessing, thank you, Matthew Fox, Ok. We have been all blessed with this choice; the only choice we have is to say
“yes”, to surrender. “Yes, God, thank you! This is so,… I don’t even want the freewill anymore, you know. I want to comply to Your will.” And
what a joy, what greatness, what fulfilment. This is bliss-on-tap.  Everything that separates is illness; everything that reunifies, Justice – Jus.
Jus, One, Junus. The etymology of justice is when we are all one. That’s what it means, Justice, the one who says Jus. Jus is Unity -- the
same root -- is when we are united and everything is fair and just, there cannot be any injustice. Then, you cannot harm yourself. I mean, you
can obviously, but you shouldn’t. And there is a point, a stage of evolution where we didn’t and where we will not anymore. That’s exactly what
we are working on, right now.

MM:         The idea of justice to me in my naïve, you know, uneducated, degree… is some external force punishing, hurting. You know, “You’re
a bad person, you did it wrong and I’m gonna make you pay so that you never do it again.” Punitive justice, that’s the whole concept.

PS:         Yes. It’s like I am saying repentance in my process, or atonement. They don’t understand repent means to rethink, rethink to your
own mistakes and don’t do them anymore. Sacrifice, it’s not what you take away, it’s what you gave away. It’s always positive. And justice is
not about punishment. Punishment is what you are doing everyday with yourself, with one another. You are punishing without any reason,
without any validity yourself. No, justice is about reward, is about fulfilment, is some kind of a climax, of happiness. Justice is where we are
all one. And everything that imbalance this unity is unjust. That’s the definition. Everything that contributes to being reunited and happy is just.
That’s a very simple… and legitimate definition of what is justice.  Not some external sword or whip ready to punish you for your trespassing.
You are punishing yourself for your trespassing all the time. Where do you think cancer is coming from? Where do you think AIDS is coming
from? We are the oncogenes of this planet. That means the genes of structuration of this planet, the humans I mean, the original humans.
And just like in a cancer scenario, those oncogenes were not supposed to be active after you have grown up. They start to be active again,
then they multiply, they become immortal, in one word, megalomaniac. Sounds familiar? Looks like a human being. And then they destroy
their own body… due to their megalomania. They want to become god and immortal; they die. AIDS, what it is: Lymphocyte T4… It’s like the
praetorian guard of the Life Empire… the difference is for themselves, who kill one another. We are the lymphocyte T4 of this planet. We are
the guardians, the enlightened guardians of this planet, whom we have started to kill, to dominate, to destroy. And the earth is dying from
AIDS; we are dying from AIDS. Oh, how weird it is! Every disease reproduces what we are inflicting to our own Geoself, our greater self, our
living self; nothing less and nothing more. And when you join in, when you atone for Life, and try to do something positive for others and for
life, you are healing yourself, in the same time, in the same process, because you transcend your little self to a greater self and systems of
reciprocation immediately take place and you’re better. You feel so much better. You don’t have any idea how people 15 years ago in Europe
were feeling good about themselves, just by knowing they were contributing to saving the children in Africa, saving the environment and the
endangered species, saving the American Indian, doing something good. Actually my “healing” in the system was just unimportant; the
healing was taking place in their own psyche, in their own heart. For the first time in their life, they were feeling good. They could pretend they
were good to others, but deep inside they knew they were doing the wrong thing. All of a sudden, for the first time, even though they would
have never thought they could have done something positive, they were doing something great. And they were associated to doing
something great. And they were feeling great. And there was no room for death and no room for cancer and no room for AIDS or whatever.
That’s the trick. That’s the trick of health, to associate people to their own healing, a global One. Always go to the higher picture of Life.

MM:         Wonderful. Let’s talk about your, again…. Now I’m broken, I’m sick, I’m diseased. I hear about you, the wonderful healer that can fix
everything, right?

PS:         I can make healers; I’m not a healer. Ok. I can make 10 healers in an hour if you want. God is the healer.

MM:         Tell me more. Good. But also what I want to get to is…

PS:         Yes

MM:         Is your specific technology. Do you have… You have skills that are quite powerful and unique?

PS:          Um, hm.

MM:         Tell me, specifically, what your technology does to bring me back to balance so that I don’t die or that I… the disease disappears.

PS:         Well let’s talk about my MCC technology, then, the one I’m starting to implement on a wider scale. It stands for Morphogenic
Composite-ideogram Cybernetics. Sounds very barbarian, barbarous, sorry, but it’s very simple. It’s just taking a person, as a whole, in
terms of her or his own DNA… shape -- the morph, the sound of his own voice, his own movement -- shrinking down to some kind of
mathematical equation, an ideogram, and then process the essence of the person, purified, simplified, you know, de-humanised and re-
humanised in a different way, and possibly blend them together. Which means, I could take care, through this MCC process, of an entire
town, you know, just by taking a few samples, a few hundred samples, blending them all together through some kind of a morphotype and
we could curb crime. We can just completely reduce violent crime, sexual crime, drug crimes by going to the cause of it, going to the cause.
We can extend that to nation. This has application in terms of counter-terrorism. We can just implant within those bad guys a compulsive
desire to redeem themselves and do something else which is peaceful… it’s better than black ops, and just, you know, killing them. And this
is in perfect abidance with freewill. We just help people do what they want to do, but they don’t know it, most of the time. They don’t want to
destroy themselves, they don’t want to die, they don’t want to be in a wheelchair, they don’t want to have a lung cancer because they smoke.
They want to be happy, they want to be healthy, they want to be all united, and all different in the same time. That’s exactly what this
technology that unifies people, that symbolises them, that shrinks them down to a point, to a unique symbol, can do. And then it comes
handy, my “powers,” to quicken, to catalyze the whole system in an exponential intensity and rhythm. That’s what I’m doing. What I am doing,
as you know, is extremely difficult to explain, I’ve tried all my life; my clan has tried. I’m even different from my clan of freaks. I’m a freak within
freaks. And it’s basically impossible. I speak, I don’t know, 12 languages. I’ve tried in every human languages, and I’m not counting the
extinct languages, to try to give metaphorical appreciation of what I’m doing. It doesn’t work. Once again, it goes back to the experiment. I can
prove what I’m doing. People don’t have to understand it, they just have to experience it and do it themselves. They’ll be glad with doing it and
not explaining it. I know a lot of charlatans who can explain what they don’t do. I cannot explain what I am doing. That makes me the opposite
of a charlatan, I think. But I can prove my point.

MM:         Then, because… because it’s very difficult to… again, as soon as you start slipping between the cracks of our reality and moving
into multiple… the continuum…

PS:         Yes.

MM:         The continuum… and as soon as you go into the continuum, all the metaphoric boundaries of our reality set.

PS:         Hey, I’m sorry. Yes… so.

MM:         Well, that’s just the way…  so I deeply appreciate that. So tell me then, in very straight terms, the applicant… what you have done… I
mean, what… AIDS… what do you do?

PS:         Anything.

MM:         I mean, how many… give me concrete examples, then, of what, some of the… what… your skills have brought about.  

PS:         OK. No, a few salient examples. One kid with cystic fibrosis in mom’s belly. This is exactly what I can do. I took care of the father and
the mother. They were bearing the same defective gene. The mother was pregnant. The kid was diagnosed by the best experts, because
they were scientists themselves, as having the cystic fibrosis. When I took care of the foetus, and it was born… no cystic fibrosis, no signs.
Then they went deep into the kid’s DNA. It was gone. Which means genetic engineering. Well, it’s also playing god to a point, but why not, if it’
s for the kid. I mean, what was wrong with interfering. That was not God’s will for the kid to be sick. That was a little bit of chaos in life which
is necessary, actually, to test our freewill, at least. Ok. So that’s an example. People in a deep coma, who wake up from a coma. Animals, of
course. I’m an expert. I can do basically anything on an animal. I’m a thousand times more effective on an animal than I am on a baby… a
thousand times more effective on a baby than I am on a teenager… and a few dozen times more effective on a teenager than on an old
person. It goes with proximity to life, to God, life potential, and many, many things. But, since most processes, most diseases, relate to self
destruction… what it takes me is just to bypass you, to circumvent your will of self-destruction, to re-establish the harmony and normal
functioning of the soul, mind, body interactions, and nothing else. And stop killing yourself.

If we can come back to the burns, now, for example. That’s an interesting subject because burns represent an anomaly. In terms of so-
called diseases… well, unless I’m a complete charlatan, I cannot guarantee a 100% rate of success. When people really want to die, they
die, and there is nothing else; just because of my ethics, I cannot force them to live. So I can have always 10%, 20%, 30%, who knows, rate
of unsuccess. There is always an explanation for it. The anomaly of burns, it’s I guarantee, it’s always a 100% rate of success, period. If I fail
once on burns, I’m out of the job, take my word for it… third degree burns. Not… I cannot take care of more like 10, 15 persons a day.
Anything more, I would be a quack. Again, that was very bad when I was receiving 100,000 letters a day. That mean, we had to play God and
say who’s going to live, who’s going to die. But that was not my barbecue, and I’m glad of it. Ok, I had my ethical team of people who were
choosing according to their existential worth, or youth, who was to live and who was to die. Burns, I could take care of 100,000 a day without
bragging. 100,000 people burned simultaneously. Why? It’s because it doesn’t take me anything. It doesn’t cost me an ounce of energy,
nothing. It’s just like bypassing you, completely, and shifting reality once and for all. Do you know that there are people who died of cold in a
locking room -- frigorific… system -- who believed that the system was on, but it wasn’t, and they died -- at 72º Fahrenheit -- of cold, with
frozen bites and everything? That’s the power of the mind. Under hypnosis, you can also suggest to someone that he is holding, instead of a
pen, some kind of electric resistance that’s very hot and you’re going to generate burns, second degree, on the fingers. That’s the power of
the mind. This goes back to a very ancient taboo, B’rith Esh. This is the Kabbalistic code… that’s the first word of the Bible…  not b’rith ish,
not “at the beginning,” but “alliance with fire,” b’rith esh, in Hebrew. The alliance with fire… isn’t it, in terms of paleontology, the moment in
which human became human; but isn’t it also the moment where they start to sin, to separate from other animals, to conquer new territories,
to destroy, unnecessary, to cook -- and I’m not so much for cooking food, as you know that, I try to respect and abide to natural laws, nothing
else. When you are exposed to fire, it creates a horrible pain, nothing… but very superficial, even when you are exposed five minutes to
flame… when you think about it… assuming you didn’t inhale, of course, the heat, and your brain wasn’t damaged. It’s just like 5 mm of skin
that have been barbecued, but all your organs are fine, everything is fine, just the pain is unbearable. And then your brain gives a signal of
self-destruction. And then you start to generate edemas, and everything. That’s your body, that’s the immune, internal, physiological reaction
that kills after burns. My work is very simple. I bypass those, and I do nothing else. It doesn’t cost me a thing. I can do… that’s why I don’t
even have to charge.

Ok, that’s public. You can send me any fireman you want. Any burn… I could also teach people in half an hour, groups all over the planet, you
know, some kind of emergency team in case there would be a nuclear blast, in case there would be something really bad happening. You
know, I can teach firemen, but also volunteers, people, how to heal burns. Because they could do it on a wider scale, they can be everywhere,
in every city, where it happens. And this is also the most simple thing to be tested scientifically. You know, give me cells, we burn them, and
we see the difference between the one’s, the batch I haven’t been taking care of, and the one I have. And people will do exactly the same. The
trick is, there is no spoon. There is no fire. No. Nothing is really real. But fire is an illusion. The Druids, the real ones, had a special concept
for fire; and that was not part of the elements, but it was a usurper of elements. It looks very much like it’s alive… air, you know, ground and
fire. No fire is an illusion, Like time, like many things. But this one is so easy to unveil, to expose as an illusion, through experiment. So that’s
why I have such rate of results, amazing. And I guarantee someone who’s been burned, third degree, barbecued -- they are going to give him
mega-doses of morphine and let him die in a hospital -- I guarantee that person can play tennis basically without scarification, 3 weeks
later… if I can take, or anyone of my students could take care of that person. Fire.

MM:         There was an element of time that was required of this because of this immune response. Could you explain that?

PS:         Yes. That’s… when your mind has given to your body this horrible order of self-destruction, when the destructions have occurred on
an extent which is beyond the point of recovery, well, there is nothing I can do, which means, optimally, I guarantee the 100% rate of success,
and without scarification, within minutes of the exposure to fire. After an hour I could, or they could, my students, have a slight rate of
unsuccesses. After a day, this is too late. Ok, so rush when you burn yourself. Rush. It’s just, you don’t want this unreality to become real.
When it has become too real, it’s like The Matrix all over, you know, you are dead even in your dream. Can you live without your mind? No.
Your mind, even in an unreal fashion, has decided that that was the reality and you have to die, you die. Even though it wasn’t real.  

MM:         So would you say then… let’s, let’s, now take this principle with fire, that’s very clear, that the immune sys…, the brain says, this is
horrible, it’s too painful, I’m dying.

PS:         Yes. Oh, it goes back to an old taboo; it’s also infringing an ancient taboo about fire. It goes back to… That’s why it creates such a
very rapid detrimental response within the body. It’s not only the pain. There are many philosophical, spiritual and historical aspects, but it
would take us for hours, so let’s just keep it all together.

MM:         My question has to do now, with the general, your general technology of, actually what I’m going to say is, a reality shift.

PS:         Yes.

MM:         What you’re doing is somehow dropping in to and, I’m not, and again, this is a pretty difficult area to go into, but you’re basically
going in and replacing
…
PS:         One reality by another.

MM:         One reality for another.

PS:         Because there are infinite levels realms of realities, once again. As well as there is not a universe, but pluriverses, infinitely. You
know in the thirties we didn’t even know the concept of a galaxy. We thought there was just a bright star. Then we realised, huh, there are
billions of galaxies. Now we talk about one universe and one big bang. But… big crash, big bang, that’s just one cell of an infinite level of
universes, and that’s in one reality. There are infinite levels of reality with infinite levels of universes, and so forth. My gift -- but it’s not my gift,
you have the same, you just don’t know how to use it -- is just to surf between realities. That means, I see a kid being run over by a truck with
his little bicycle, I just break into the space/time continuum, right away, go to another reality, and the kid is going to go right through all those
wheels without being hit. That’s it. In the other reality, he’s dead. In one reality, you have a cancer and in another one you don’t. But I guess,
you cannot understand the way Life really is. Do you think you are just one 50 years old man? Don’t you understand all those
transcarnational processes -- not reincarnational, transcarnational -- those simultaneous lives, those interconnections that make you a drop
of water in the ocean, a galaxy, a woman, a child, an animal, all that simultaneaously? Space/time, once again, this great illusion. It’s,
therefore, so easy for me… when I am taking care of someone in really bad shape, really dying, first thing I blend. It’s easy, we’re always one,
but you just don’t know the system, I do. We blend. Then we just detach from this little reality, this realm of limited possibilities, and go to
another one where things are much easier to fix, and then go back. It’s just what I call surfing in this multiple reality universes, pluriverses.
There are other realities in which it’s easy to heal oneself, you know, but… Those processes of self-healing… I’m just, basically, taking over
your centers of control when you have decided to destroy yourself. But, through faith, miracles happen; incredible miracles happen, just
because people have seen Jesus or Krishna, they are going to heal from terminal cancer. I’m no better. I’m just bypassing the system, and
inculcating into their deeper mind and freewill center, “Heal yourself,” instead of destroying yourself. You heal yourself. I don’t heal. There are
two healers: God, you… all of you. I’m just interceding, I’m just in between, surfing. I'm sorry, I cannot be more clear.

M:          You’re doing great. No… I’m delighted. This is fabulous. This is great. I appreciate it very much. And again, this all belongs to you…
so none of this is mine.

PS:          No, no, it’s to everyone.  I hope I can be of service…

M:          So, let’s, ah… I got up… I woke up this morning, ah… we’ll just play a little bit… and I was thinking about the role of image,
imagination…

PS:          Yes…

M:          … and the surfing, because in order to do what you just described, three things seem to be going on. And,… again, I’m embarrassed
to be so presumptuous.

PS:          Please, please, don’t….

M:          You have, number one, you have to move into other reality – other dimensions – I’m going to say other dimensions. To me, reality is
an image…

PS:          Um hm….

M:          Right?

PS:          Yes, it is.

M:          So that’s imagination. So, there’s something linked with the fundamental image-making process that’s part of this design – your
technology – this capacity to hold, to imagine something…

PS:          Well, if you can imagine… that’s the old druidic proverb: If you can dream it, you can do it. The proof of justice, of a higher dimension
in which justice reigns, is that everyone has ingrained a sense of “that’s not fair”. Everyone… in every race, every culture, every civilization,
even animals, no doubt, share a sense of “that’s not fair”, a sense of there must be something different, better, higher. Well, if you can dream
it, it exists. That’s it. You just have lost that sense. You are completely tied up with your heavy chains and your iron balls to one little
reductionistic reality. But if you can dream it, it exists. And what you can dream -- and what, remember, is nothing compared to what your
unconscious dreams and can also do, and so forth. And, this is with 10% of your brain, remember! Ok, so come to my machine, get
awakened and get transformed. [Laughing]

M:          So, now, we have the capacity to imagine….

PS:         Imagine, IMAGO. Remember, that's the same concept, imagine….

M:          Yes, I got it.

PS:          Perfection, imagine, IMAGO…

M:          Yes, yes, I saw that loop. So, this capacity to imagine, there’s… we can… that’s another whole discussion of how that’s been
retarded and what’s going on. And, even the capacity to dream and imagine is…

PS:          … is lost… is gone.

M:          … is gone… It’s horrible – a huge thing.  Number two is the capacity to then move into another dimension, right. So, that's another
whole thing… or is it? Can you help me understand the moving into a different dimension, because I see them as different. I see the capacity
to imagine, one thing, and moving into another dimension, another.

PS:          [shakes his head]. No. You’re a prisoner. It’s your fear that keeps you from doing it. Any shaman would tell you exactly the same
thing. It’s just your fear that keeps you from flying, that keeps you from going to another universe, that keeps you from making a miracle, that
keeps you from being young forever, or powerful. This is fear once again, the greatest iron ball on this planet, fear. But, don’t underestimate
this holocaust, this cultural holocaust, that keep you from being all that you can be, that took away so many senses, so many powers, so
many capacities, this sensory reality that you had: telepathic senses, telekinetic senses, and so much more that I cannot even explain. So
you’re afraid of the unknown. You don’t know what you are going to find, but you know what you are going to leave. No matter how shitty your
life is, after all, it’s better to have a shitty life than no life at all. Or something more scary, what am I going to find on the other side and if I don’t
come back, am I going to get lost? Am I going to become a ghost, some kind of a spirit, you know?  Fear, fear, fear. That’s only fear. Even
though you feel, right now, fearless. I love you very much. I think you are one of the best being I’ve ever seen, but still, you Michael, you have a
lot of fear. There is also a fear, that’s the fear of hurting people, fear of infringing with other people, fear of kicking their ass, be it God’s will for
you to kick their ass. What do you think a sickness is? It’s God’s kick in the ass, ok, for people to wake up. It’s a good thing. Actually, there is
nothing bad really happening, you know, always good things. Because we don’t listen. God is trying to tell us something in a nice way. No,
we want it our way. Or it’s not the right time, come back later. So he’s going to talk louder, and louder and louder. And at the end, it’s meta-
static [laughing]. And that’s too bad. And still we don’t wake up. We don’t get it. Fear, once again, that keeps you from turning what you call
imagination and dreams, into realities, other realities. But that can be healed. That can be removed.

M:          Yes… we’re working on it.

PS:          We’re working on it.

M:          Yes, thank you very much. Um… third issue – question – the target. So in my musing this morning, I had three coordinates. I had an
imagination or reality. I had dimensions. Then, I had the target, the target being the other person that you’re going to be working on – the
object of this thing…. So, I think I’m going now where we have this, ah, non-linear…

PS:          … non-local [smile]…

M:          We’re all one, you know, we’re all one, there isn’t a particular entity – that’s an abstraction – and yet you have the ability to treat
anyplace in the world somebody that’s in space and in time and in their own…. You can find me anyplace. So, that’s what I’m – I was
curious…

PS:          [Shaking his head… responding loudly].  Selves do exist! Selves do exist. Sub-selves even do exist. That means, you don’t realise,
that in every of your cells, billions of atoms; in every atom, billions of universes. You know, there is no right here, right now. But yet -- I know,
that’s one of the paradox or an apparent paradox -- There is a way to find you in what’s not a huge chaos, which is actually a huge infinity or
infinities. There is a self, that I cannot understand, that you cannot understand, but God can, that make you very important, and right here and
right now. And that’s the way your little self, right here, right now, can impact all your selves in all those parallel lives, right here, right now. You
can change what you were doing in the 12th century or what you are doing a million years from now. You can change it right here, right now.
That shouldn’t be called a self. It’s a little identity. We all have a little identity, sometime extremely important within the greater oneness of all
things. I’m sorry, this is… I cannot give you anything more. It’s… first, it’s a secret that goes back to the ultimate secret of life: who are we,
what are we doing, ok, why are we here. Well, there is a purpose, and there is a reason. And remember, that in my philosophy of life, the only
sins that are absolutely unforgivable are the sins of omission, not commission. Whatever you do bad, can be redeemed, almost everything
you do. But what you were supposed to do and you haven’t done, that’s bad. And that relates to this idea of little self, our duty, right here, right
now, to change things and our own potential that’s wasted. The waste of talents goes back with the sins of omission I’m talking about.

M:          Very nice….  [Break in interview.]   I’m stalling because I’m not quite sure where to go…. Let’s go back to the idea of modeling – that
we need models in order to open capacities. Let’s relate that back to adults. Most adults aren’t… don’t… can’t model because they weren’t
modelled. All right, we’ve got this breakdown of modelling.

PS:          It’s never too late… that’s the positive thing I know from life…

M:          I know, I know…. So, um, my, um, my passion and my focus is how to – how can we awaken these kinds of perceptions or these
capacities in adults so that children can grow up without being damaged and without being like you said, the failure to act. It goes back to
modelling….

PS:          Yeah, but we’re living in an upside down world where actually the children should be our own teachers. They know more than we do
at every level. And I wonder whether, rather than teach the parents, we shouldn’t teach the kids, who will teach their parents in return, and the
parents will teach their grandparents, because they are more malleable, more flexible, more plastic, more open to changes and they have a
greater potential. But, once again, it goes back to experiment. You know, whether your eighty years old or whether you are seven years old,
you just need a complete transformation; you just need to break free from your own cultural prison. Well, I can do that upon people. But
better, I can teach people to do that upon others. That’s the whole idea, to give them a completely different appreciation of themselves, of
their own surrounding, of their reality, of the universe, to give them a sense of duty and of happiness, of joy, of love, of self-love, at least. I think
that’s what’s missing the most. It’s not unconditional love; all that is great and beautiful. But it’s too theoretical. People should just love
themselves at first. We go from the basics: Love thyself, you know. Feeling love with your self. That’s what exactly I’m… that’s the only order I’
ll give every client, every patient, every student of mine. And then, through their own self love, well, they just glow with this power for others to
say, “But I want it also,” you know. “I want to be in love with myself.” There is nothing wrong with this positive selfishness to a point, as long
as we can relinquish it later on down the road. People need, we need athanors, which is the alchemical cauldron of transmutation. That’s
what they need, athanors. We need to have those athanors, everywhere, in which… There is something I like with the American psyche --
many things I like; many things I don’t like also. But the right here, right now, I’m not opposed to it. That’s what people want. They want it right
here and right now. Not in 10 years, not in 10 centuries. We can do it very fast, you know. With my technology, added to my own power, I tell
you we can turn people not only in a different being, into a different species in less than an hour. We can do that millions of times a day. It’s
just a matter of having lack of the financial. We have the technological means to do so. We just have… we don’t have, yet, the financial
means to do so. So people just need to transform themselves very, very fast, being different beings….

M:          Hold on a sec… making sure I got you here…. Go ahead.

PS:          I don’t know. Can you hear me? Well, I’m sorry I cannot answer more precisely to the idea of people should be transformed
dramatically, having learned how to love themselves. When they know how to… they cannot love others unless they love themselves, first, the
basic, once again. But it’s very easy. I mean… because it’s the right thing. And that’s exactly what Ghandi was saying, when you are doing the
right thing, it’s amazing how it can succeed and now you are drawing people because instinctively people know that’s the right thing to do.
They know it’s the wrong thing, they know that’s the right thing. And they want the right thing….

M:        And, um, so you’ve had this vision for many years, you’ve had the skills, and you’ve been practicing and working… for many years.
What has prevented you from making more progress?

PS:          Maybe you were not ready, maybe I wasn’t ready, maybe God wasn’t ready, maybe it wasn’t the timing, and it’s just happening to be
the good time now to do it. For the first time in my life, I’m ready to delegate completely, to open up at whatever cost….

M:          … getting static here now [background noise]…. Um, let’s go there… because let’s say… because this is actually a wonderful
point…. This notion that now is the time….

PS:          Therefore, we don’t have to carry anger, don’t have to carry guilt or bitterness…. It couldn’t have happened ten years ago. It couldn’t
have happened one hundred years ago. It had, no matter how sad it is, to be that cataclysmic, that disastrous a situation, to the point where
everybody’s walking with their fingers crossed now -- even governments. They know that time is running out. And it’s exactly when things look
completely desperate and hopeless, that actually there is a window of hope opening. That’s the positive part, that’s the HOPE. I wasn’t ready.
You weren’t ready. We all are ready now. And we have to do it. Why, because it’s possible. Before it wasn’t. So I’ll delegate people, who’ll
delegate themselves, and so forth. And we can change things and keep horrible things to happen. They will happen, either horribly or
beautifully. Let’s make them happen beautifully, peacefully, and painlessly. It’s like a birth. It can be convulsive; it can be otherwise. It can be
also beautiful. And the real name, the real concept… my family, my clan, they call themselves the midwives of God. And that’s exactly how it
fits today. We need midwives. We need to teach midwives for a new birth.
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